Please indicate interest and roles below.
1. Vikestart (Tank)
2. Chaosetor (DPS)
3. endoscopy (DPS)
4. Aberlour (DPS)
5.

Non-cabal reserves
1. MeesterKenzo (Heals)

Reserves
1.

Warning!
Hell Fallen NM is a very demanding dungeon. I am usually not overly picky about gear and damage output, but just for this dungeon, you will need to be able to perform well. As a DPS, you need to be very confident in your abilities to deal a massive amount of damage. This is because of the mechanics that often require one of the DPS players to go on impair-duty. Then it's important that the remaining 2 DPS can put up a nice level of damage. The healer needs to be extremely tough due to the high incoming damage for the tank.

And ideally you need to have really, really uber fist-heal gear. 1) cause of what Vike says above about damage spikes and 2) Cause of all the shields, leeching in here is a real no go.

A lot of HF is about getting the mechanics right, especially on bosses like 3 and 6, and to some extent 4 and 5 too.

Any stats? Massive amount and extremely tough doesn't really describe what you expect. I'd love to join but I have no idea if my DPS or fist healing is good enough.

Finally, is it a learning run or not?

You don't need monsterous DPS, really. Most of the mobs have less HP in NM than they do in Elites. However the shields is what hurts. Just good solid DPS will be fine.

Fist Heal wise, I did it fully tricked out with 10.4's with my old fist healer, with a very good heal tank, and it was still no snack. I had to hit the Oh Crap! Button a few times. The 3rd boss doggies hit like trucks.

I'm down to DPS this. Sadly I do not have the gear to heal it, though.

Rick Fortune wrote:You don't need monsterous DPS, really. Most of the mobs have less HP in NM than they do in Elites. However the shields is what hurts. Just good solid DPS will be fine.

Fist Heal wise, I did it fully tricked out with 10.4's with my old fist healer, with a very good heal tank, and it was still no snack. I had to hit the Oh Crap! Button a few times. The 3rd boss doggies hit like trucks.

Well Vike and I spent 5+ hours on the last boss(es) alone, and we had to give up simply because Magog (or whatever his name is) and the adds that spawn after you kill the Ascendant were able to kill the tank and healer before we (the dps) could burn down Magog, we got quite close a few times, even had him at 400 HP once. But the majority of the times he managed to wipe the group and still have above 50% HP left. While I'm sure it's not necessary to have everything in .4/.4 for this particular dungeon, I would at least claim that, based on yesterday's experience, having the glyph stats somewhat down would be a tremendous asset.

I would also like to stress that I am not trying to sound like an elitist here. I'm just sharing my thoughts based on yesterday's experience. And in the end, it's Vike's call, not mine

Rick Fortune wrote:And ideally you need to have really, really uber fist-heal gear. 1) cause of what Vike says above about damage spikes and 2) Cause of all the shields, leeching in here is a real no go.

A lot of HF is about getting the mechanics right, especially on bosses like 3 and 6, and to some extent 4 and 5 too.

I'll refer to what Chaosetor said. If we have a DPS on impair duty, it's imperative that the remaining two DPS players can mananage to reliably put up a decent level of damage. Magog will need to be killed as fast as possible after enraging. I do not want to be wiping for another 4 - 5 hours on the last boss tonight just because the DPS is a little low.


Also, I've put MeesterKenzo as a non-cabal reserve for healing. Since this is a cabal organised run within Nine Swords, any decent healer that signs up before the run starts will be prioritised, but it looks like we're at least good to go with a nice full team now

The one time I managed to get into HF, I fist healed. I think the reason we didn't get past 3 had more to do with impairs and dps-coordination than the healing, but I could be wrong. Also not signing due to usually needing to be on the other side of town for family dinner about 2200 or so.

BrokenPieces wrote:Any stats? Massive amount and extremely tough doesn't really describe what you expect. I'd love to join but I have no idea if my DPS or fist healing is good enough.

Finally, is it a learning run or not?

Sorry, didn't see this until now. DPS just needs to be decent, not extreme, but decent

The healing must be superb though.

I don't know if I'd classify it as a learning run or not. We can take our time to explain each of the fights and some wipes here and there are okay, but I'd rather not spend another bunch of hours wiping at the last boss, so like I said; decent DPS and a superb healer is needed

Success!!!

Congratulations to Chaosetor for getting his Karma Curio!

Overall a very smooth run. We had a few wipes on the last boss, but it was pretty smooth as well. Nice work everyone